tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post7623340966092073785..comments2024-03-02T15:33:51.602-05:00Comments on The Obscurity Factor: Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty and Stockard Channing in The Fortune (1975)Benhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17769809005816830951noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-67111387681135215412012-04-30T14:31:53.285-04:002012-04-30T14:31:53.285-04:00Depending upon what source you read, the Midler st...Depending upon what source you read, the Midler story varies a bit. The executive producer says that Midler kept Nichols waiting at the Beverly Hills Hotel, where she was staying, while having a massage, and that Nichols and Midler spoke alone, eventually. Others say that she lost the part, because she asked him what other films he had made, actually not knowing. Likely a combination of things. Nichols is known to have an attitude, himself.<br /><br />Nicholson wanted his friend Mama Cass to play the role - that didn't go over well - plus, she would soon be dead (and NOT from choking on a sandwich, a major urban myth).Leightonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-7816701247760904862012-04-26T12:45:16.271-04:002012-04-26T12:45:16.271-04:00Thanks for the clarification. When I read the earl...Thanks for the clarification. When I read the earlier posting, I thought maybe it was a typo and you meant to write "met" instead of "married." I had an image of her drunk at a party and meeting him, and then later meeting him regarding this movie and not remembering having met him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-58251184789755625952012-04-26T10:16:59.180-04:002012-04-26T10:16:59.180-04:00Oh, of course! I thought you meant the Stockard Ch...Oh, of course! I thought you meant the Stockard Channing character in the film. The incident was never confirmed, so no, I don't believe she's ever clarified that.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769809005816830951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-32477439084998551702012-04-26T10:13:33.270-04:002012-04-26T10:13:33.270-04:00Yes, I did mean Bette Midler. Thanks, Leighton. I ...Yes, I did mean Bette Midler. Thanks, Leighton. I was a bit confused by Ben's answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-80352542000136222012012-04-26T00:41:04.140-04:002012-04-26T00:41:04.140-04:00I think "x" meant Bette Midler.....I think "x" meant Bette Midler.....Leightonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-69398452119738363482012-04-25T17:39:30.174-04:002012-04-25T17:39:30.174-04:00I think she was supposed to be completely soused w...I think she was supposed to be completely soused when she married him, and, having only just met him that night, didn't remember him when she was sober.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769809005816830951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-1516460935006393172012-04-25T17:05:23.855-04:002012-04-25T17:05:23.855-04:00Did she ever say why she pretended to not know who...Did she ever say why she pretended to not know who he was?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-76987614663573204352012-04-24T16:00:11.077-04:002012-04-24T16:00:11.077-04:00Apparently Nichols wanted Bette Midler for the par...Apparently Nichols wanted Bette Midler for the part, until she insulted him by pretending she didn't know who he was... It's just as well - she was much better off making her feature film debut in The Rose.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769809005816830951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-20143507871746235342012-04-24T13:25:11.127-04:002012-04-24T13:25:11.127-04:00I remember reading a tidbit about Stockard Channin...I remember reading a tidbit about Stockard Channing in a gossip magazine or in something like Walter Scott's "Personality Parade" or whatever at the time of this movie's release. Stockard said when she was cast she had visions of romance with one or the other leading men, but once filming began they just viewed her as one of the boys, or as she was quoted, "Good Ol' Stock."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-64792275695039652392012-04-23T23:34:09.438-04:002012-04-23T23:34:09.438-04:00Honestly, there seems to be no "point" t...Honestly, there seems to be no "point" to this film. Slapstick, mixed with constant screeching, a bare-bones plot...and some good set design. What's with that whole scene of Nicholson ending up OUTSIDE the plane.......what? I know it's a "farce," but it's still a mess. Oh, yes, I'll watch "Shampoo" a dozen more times, but cannot finish this film.Leightonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-88874128528587114712012-04-23T21:59:16.594-04:002012-04-23T21:59:16.594-04:00I remember that it had a great poster. I had my pa...I remember that it had a great poster. I had my parents take me to see this, and they both thought it was awful. When we were on the way to the car in the parking lot they saw someone they knew going to his car, and he made some comment along the lines of "We're all trying to get out of here before anyone sees us," and my parents laughing and agreeing with his assessment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-32018136009363844282012-04-22T23:22:03.781-04:002012-04-22T23:22:03.781-04:00I only lasted through five parts. It is easy to s...I only lasted through five parts. It is easy to see why it flopped - definitely an acquired taste.Leightonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-19365442415608063202012-04-22T21:57:48.175-04:002012-04-22T21:57:48.175-04:00I remember this film coming out right after Stocka...I remember this film coming out right after Stockard Channing made such an impact in the TV film, "The Girl Most Likely To ...". I thought that this film's failure would be the end of her career; I'm so glad I was wrong.VanceManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644001020525327405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-40963333896706392662012-04-22T13:41:46.207-04:002012-04-22T13:41:46.207-04:00I always mixed this one with Lucky Lady: another m...I always mixed this one with Lucky Lady: another movie with three stars that came out at the same time. I knew that one of them was an awful turkey (probably Lady), but as a result, I went nowhere near either! Talk about tarring with the same brush, or whatever the expression is...<br /><br />I often think of films in pairs - and mix them up. That must be my brain's way of using less disk space. I will never know which is Starting Over and which is the Seduction of Joe Tynan; or which is Blue Thunder as opposed to War Games. And don't even tell me about Red Planet versus Mission to Mars: that was designed to mess me up.Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17678403160077545260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4208674285913301013.post-79599006765404894592012-04-22T12:49:07.730-04:002012-04-22T12:49:07.730-04:00Y'know, I saw this in the late-'70s on net...Y'know, I saw this in the late-'70s on network TV and LOVED it. I remember laughing my ass off. But I was also 11 or 12, so... I'd love to see this movie again, but I'm also scared to: I have such a great memory of enjoying it, that I don't want that ruined (if it falls short). <br />Thanks for the blast from the past!<br />--IvanIvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16443946766217092846noreply@blogger.com